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Tournament rating system outside ELO

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Tournament rating system outside ELO

Postby  Wololo_Warrior » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:13 pm

Happened to be reading some articles about different scoring systems and seeing that Magic the gathering used to use an ELO system until they changed to something completely new.

ELO still seems the best suited scoring system for overall player ratings on Voobly / Steam etc, but possibly introducing an additional rating system specifically for events could have several benefits?

Magic the Gathering scoring:
http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Planeswalker_points

Example event:
http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Pro_Tour#Pro_Points

Perhaps something that could be done with Escape Gaming, but don't see any reason couldn't be some overall 'Event Ranking' that would be earned specifically for players that participate in 'Official' events? (Official as determined by whoever would take on running the scoring system).

Seems fairly unanamous that people see the flaws with ELO in that players can elect to play who they want to and so can avoid the better players to ensure maximum ELO score, but an official event rank - players can't avoid anyone and everyone is elite, so in a way it would / could / should be a much better overall indicator of the age old question - "who is number 1?"

Could also be used for ranking + seeding purposes in events with no qualification as side benefit.
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Re: Tournament rating system outside ELO

Postby  SiFly » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:06 pm

Too many different settings for the tournaments to really make this work.
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Re: Tournament rating system outside ELO

Postby  Wololo_Warrior » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:11 pm

Actually looked into how the ELO is calculated, yes, I really am that sad :)
https://metinmediamath.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/how-to-calculate-the-elo-rating-including-example/

"Simplest" way might just be having a separate ELO rating for "Official" Events, with what quantifies "Official Event" being up for debate, it would be pretty cool to have a very specific, if somewhat simplified ELO rating specifically for tournament play. (TV events)

Having X rating in the 1v1 ladder is 1 thing, but being able to have the best ELO in the AoC Tournament rankings would be something hard to argue with that they were they no 1?

(Some calculation / decrease over time for inactivity)


*Edit* Posted in sync with above :)
Lots of different styles of tournaments yes, but settings are same for 1v1 opponents so ELO should still give overall ratings pretty accurately given sufficient games played?
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