Map

[IMPERIAL_GOD]

But refix map is nothing more then three vills spawned in a zoo on the same screen. I wouldnt call that nomadic at all.

[Fayt]

Tribals map is the correct one. Of course you cant change peoples behaviour who put their Lumbercamp on allies/enemies hunt with two far vills far away from center of three vills. But that isnt a map bug, its a noob bug.

Not true, I decided to check recs and the centre point of villagers was sometimes way off where their allocated resources 'should' be I guess.

[FeAge]

yesterday we had 3 games with trapped vils, one followed to the other, kind of weird for a land nomad map to happen 3 times in a roll.

[DreaIVIS]

That was one of the things tested heavily and it didn't trap one time. Was it the Tribal Wars map? If so, really need to do heavy testing.

[whack]

Yeah I was in two with him that had one trapped

[Influenza]

From my own observations I found that LAND NOMAD(fixed).rms is the same as the Tribal Wars map. Some players may be comparing the Tribal Wars map with other LN maps, which are quite different than even LAND NOMAD(fixed). For example, in other LN maps each base has 5 boars rather than 4, and all villagers start much closer to the base.

[Dalv]

Tribal Wars map is EXACTLY the same as LAND NOMAD(fixed).rms and I'm 100% sure it was the correct LAND NOMAD(fixed). I just changed the name to make it official and prevent the multiple versions of LAND NOMAD fixed (like space before or after (fixed)) getting used in the tourney. There is nothing wrong with it, you really just had some bad luck. If you want a fair map that doesn't place players near each other and everybody gets same close resources the only alternatives are the 5b,6b,7b maps. But then everybody would complain it's a noob map, such paradox, eh? Stuck villagers can happen on any LN map. You test it in vain.
This is how LN fixed always was, all better players use this exact version.

[thelucden]

Tribal Wars map is EXACTLY the same as LAND NOMAD(fixed).rms and I'm 100% sure it was the correct LAND NOMAD(fixed). I just changed the name to make it official and prevent the multiple versions of LAND NOMAD fixed (like space before or after (fixed)) getting used in the tourney. There is nothing wrong with it, you really just had some bad luck. If you want a fair map that doesn't place players near each other and everybody gets same close resources the only alternatives are the 5b,6b,7b maps. But then everybody would complain it's a noob map, such paradox, eh? Stuck villagers can happen on any LN map. You test it in vain.
This is how LN fixed always was, all better players use this exact version.

Im LNer, this Tribal Map always give 1 spot in 16 base. If it is "sometime" the game will be more exciting but it is "always" = a bug. Plz check and change.

[CondoM]

If it had smaller forests, there would be less likely to be trapped vils right?

Also harder to wall and less boring boom wars.

It's too late to make that big of a change, but I've always wondered why LN has nearly as much wood as BF and michi.

[TheViper]

Tribal Wars map is EXACTLY the same as LAND NOMAD(fixed).rms and I'm 100% sure it was the correct LAND NOMAD(fixed). I just changed the name to make it official and prevent the multiple versions of LAND NOMAD fixed (like space before or after (fixed)) getting used in the tourney. There is nothing wrong with it, you really just had some bad luck. If you want a fair map that doesn't place players near each other and everybody gets same close resources the only alternatives are the 5b,6b,7b maps. But then everybody would complain it's a noob map, such paradox, eh? Stuck villagers can happen on any LN map. You test it in vain.
This is how LN fixed always was, all better players use this exact version.

Hmm.. This is weird. Kkab is probably the one who knows LN the most, and we've been playing quite many Tribal Wars map games. Always there are weird and wrong positions. Can't think of one game that I've played that map where the positions/spots have been like they should be in Land Nomad Fixed.

Some days ago me and kkab agreed, and tried to test the ONLY Land Nomad Fixed map that I've had on my computer for some time. And after two games he told me : "viper, this is the real map".

After the game aswell he was very clear on that we HAD to get the map changed, because he didn't want games to be decided due to the map. He knows Land Nomad better than anyone, and when he says the Tribal War map is bugged after playing it 30+ times, I think he would be correct on the matter. Not to mention, we played the Land Nomad Fixed version about 5 times, and all the times the spots were good, and everything seemed as it should. We played them with POJ guys, which are all 2k+ LN players, so claiming that some of us are noobs regarding to lumbercamp placement would be off imo.

I've sent the version to Dreams, and if he could pass it on to someone who can read the maps and compare them, it would be awesome. If they turn out to be the same after that, we won't complain.