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Your fastest castle time

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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  SouFire » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:05 pm

best civs for fast castle age are mayans,aztks,mongs,brits viks and persians with others it is useless, even the old fc from sarras doing monk rush is actually a bad idea.
all times under min 13 will bring you a lower number of vills and a weak eco, i used to do (pop22)min 13 with mayans and try some ews since 4 ews around min 14 are really strong vs normal rush but if he walls its over xd,also tried to do a super boom with brits it only worked for defend building just tcs.
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  hunwhore101 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:59 am

best civs for fast castle age are mayans,aztks,mongs,brits viks and persians with others it is useless, even the old fc from sarras doing monk rush is actually a bad idea.
all times under min 13 will bring you a lower number of vills and a weak eco, i used to do (pop22)min 13 with mayans and try some ews since 4 ews around min 14 are really strong vs normal rush but if he walls its over xd,also tried to do a super boom with brits it only worked for defend building just tcs.

I always thought that doing a faster castle time would better even though having a weak eco beacuse of the new
upgrades available etc.
Anyhow i am a noob and could be wrong 11.
which is why i would like to ask the awsum community about whether to try to get a fast castle instead of the tradional feudal wars in 1vs1 mainly cause of how Cysion made Aoc box with the moto think outside of the box
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  radicalyeah » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:55 am

Well if you are playing 1v1 on arabia you will get raped if you castle that fast, that is if your opponent is decent. If you castle in the 13 min range like people are talking, you wont have any walls to defend against a scout rush. Also if he goes archers with 2-3 spears you will be in trouble.

For the most part you need to make some sort of attack in 1v1 arabia before castle age.
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  pitibiribas » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:44 am

My fastest castle was about 13 minutes (with me having stolen a couple of sheep).

I don't believe CA in less than 15 minutes is necessarily detrimental to your game. If you scout the enemy base and realize there is no potential for an early aggression, then a really fast CA -- in my humble opinion -- might give you the upper-hand later on due to the upper tech. Obviously, if the opponent is amassing an army, there is little sense in committing your resources to researching CA when soldiers are what you actually need.
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  hunwhore101 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:54 am

Thenx for the responses from what it looks like many people believe that early feudal aggresion is required to achive and early hand over your opponent as fast as possible but apart from arabia what if your playing on a map like oasis or bf where walling is very easy
TEam games also
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  hunwhore101 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:37 am

fenris wolf you must be really pro to get a tome 10:56 cause the fastest time i could find was
viewtopic.php?f=91&t=23937
also do have rec of that time thanx
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  Funito » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:36 am

This kind of competition could be fun, like the faster 200 vills competition. Are a nice way to encourage players other than expert to try new things, anyone can win.
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  fenris_w0lf » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:26 am

  06 Jun 2012, 02:37 GMT » hunwhore101 wrote:
fenris wolf you must be really pro to get a tome 10:56 cause the fastest time i could find was
viewtopic.php?f=91&t=23937
also do have rec of that time thanx


Im no pro by any standard :D

As I said it was Mongol on Yuca singleplayer 1v1 vs jap ally with pauses.

I bet its possible with around 10:30 if optimized - maybe even faster.
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  fenris_w0lf » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:47 am

Yeah Funito I agree, we had many of these "competitions" back in the days, great fun and a nice way of thinking new and win something even though you're not pro :D

Here's some of them and best times:

200VILLS:
26.08.2002 21:47 156.943 27_38_bb2_fen_brit.zip

Was played on GA KMB-version 1v1 tiny map.

This one is beat by SC__VASCO which used vikings (!) for a time of 26:53 which surprised me a bit - I mean that the Vike HC bonus > Brit TC bonus.

50 KTS:
08.09.2005 18:24 187.966 50_knights_-_28m38s_-_1TC,Yuc,Hun_-_20030824.zip

Was played on Yuca 1v1 tiny map.

Prolly beaten by many :)

FIRST2CASTLE:
08.09.2005 18:25 139.301 FirstToCastle_-_10_56_-_Mongold_Yuc_15vill.zip

Was played on Yuca 1v1 tiny map.

Should be possible with 10:30 mebbe faster.

FIRST2IMP:
08.09.2005 18:25 136.794 FirstToImp_-_18_30_-_Byz_-_24_0_Vill_-_20030831.zip

Was played on GA KMB-version 1v1 tiny map.

No idea how fast or slow this is really :D

FIRST2FEUD:
14.06.2006 19:54 135.387 Mongol_5_43.zip

Was played on Yuca 1v1 tiny map.

No idea about this time either...

Deadline for these "competitions" were pretty short so I'm betting these times can be improved quite a lot.
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Re: Your fastest castle time

Postby  iamPhoenix » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:05 pm

http://darkl.no.sapo.pt/ <- click "Concursos" at the bottom left.
I'm not sure anymore but I think that was somewhere around 2001/2002, portuguese people only...
The winner of Fast Feudal and Fast Castle PorT_Strat aka stratzilla. :)
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