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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  Cysion » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:23 pm

It's amazing how people are so erudite to perfectly judge situations they've never even faced! Aztecs have more options now with the extra eagle upgrade, but it will be up to you (or others) to discover them. It's not because the existing tactics have changed that new ones don't come instead.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  John_Mendl » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:29 pm

There are many things a somewhat experienced player will be able to tell just by the nature and magnitude of the changes. If you think the heavy eagle will even work on pocket, you're just wrong. As a few Azt pocket games get played, you will realize that.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  Cysion » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:34 pm

We did and we concluded the opposite.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  John_Mendl » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:37 pm

I dont believe you. I need to hear from someone like Ra or Ruso how the heavy eagle has worked on the pocket position. The unit that has 55 hp 7 attack, 0 armor and 3 p armor and taking 450 food and 300 gold to upgrade with no extra speed or extra attack bonus vs knights (other than +2 ew already have) simply cannot handle pocket knights, even given it trains in 30 sec instead of ew's 35. It will work well in 1v1 games where pike + heavy ew will beat knight + xbow combo, but not at pocket.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  Cysion » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:41 pm

Oh the arrogance :lol:

Anyways, new scenario editor features have been added today. And a professional video game composer is putting some effort into some new musics in the meanwhile :)
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  John_Mendl » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:42 pm

Less arrogance than you have.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  CondoM » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:50 pm

I'd assume an experienced player would know not to fight knights with eagle warriors, heavy or not. He should also have the common sense to wall, and I'd assume he'd be playing with other experienced players who might be capable of throwing up a palisade or two and building a few spearmen to keep them safe for a little while.

Just a hunch.

Heavy EW's makes them a more viable unit choice for an aztec pocket, yet slows them down a little in 1v1. It's simple really. I know you're a smart guy John, I just don't understand how you can not get it.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  John_Mendl » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:04 pm

You can use similar arguments for claiming that EW is an effective strategy at pocket (i used to believe that olden days). But EW is actually a strategy that almost never works on pocket. Like you just told, EWs can also choose to not fight knights, flanks can wall, make spears etc, yet it isnt an effective pocket strategy. If you cannot take on pocket knights, they will kill eco too hard (with the help of flank army). Honestly condom, suggest me a pocket strategy that makes use of heavy ew.
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  Acid » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:13 pm

When u press Alt+g u get BLUE and RED, but I get confused by blue with the water, I want yellow and cyan/purple instead of those, or in TG games there are red, yellow and blue..... I would like to change those colors in somewhere in the options panel..
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Re: New Expansion (updated 20 Feb: Trailer added)

Postby  eternalfool » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:14 pm

Doesn't AOFE have a very expert beta testing team which is working to balance the civs?

Anyways-
Does AOFE have some new cheatcodes?
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